Electronic Roulette Machine Rigged
- An electronic roulette game could be rigged, however, as Pierre Coulon proved when he used his laptop recently to remotely help a female friend win a jackpot at the Paris Casino in Blackpool, England.
- Workings of the machine. There has been a lot of debate regarding the authenticity of Roulette machines. Many gambling operators have expressed concern over the machines being rigged. But it is far from that. The electronic machines are equipped with software that operates on an electronic circuit air blower. It pushes the ball into the.
- Conclusion Probably one of the most common questions asked by gamblers “Are most electronic slot machines rigged” the answer is Yes and No. Depends on your definition of the term “rigged.” If your definition of “rigged” is that the casino is guaranteed to make money off electronic slot machines over a long period, then yes.
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Electronic roulette, unlike the live casino one, is powered by RNG software. RNG stands for Random Number Generator. In other words, the casino uses something like a roulette computer to power the game. Check if the operator is audited publicly by renowned agencies like eCOGRA or iTechLabs.
You’ve probably heard of a bookie. You haven’t? Well, here’s a quick rundown of things. A bookie – short for bookmaker – is defined in Wikipedia as a person or group that takes bets on sports and gambling events like horse races at odds both they and the bettor agreed upon. In the United Kingdom and other countries where they are legal, bookies are known to set up shops known as betting shops.
The Bookmaker’s Betting Shop
You may simply imagine a betting shop as a place where middle aged blue collar workers gather to bet in front of an old cathode ray tube television that shows live footage from a race track. If that’s what you are thinking, then you are wrong. Betting shops are now catching up with the times and have acquainted themselves with electronic gambling.
While many bookies tore down their shops and went online, some retained their brick and mortar attribute, and instead invested on automated betting systems that don’t even have to connect to the Internet. These machines are specifically called fixed odds betting terminals or FOBTs, a very common sight in British and Nevada betting shops. As the name suggests, the odds in these machines are set up by the bookie and not the one originally found in whatever game is played in the machine.
An Overview of Roulette Machines
The most common game being played in FOBTs is no other than the casino gamblers’ favorite game and the gambling establishments’ favorite cash cow, roulette. Indeed, playing roulette is no longer just limited to casino-goers and those with access to the Internet, but also to those living in areas where bookies can operate legally.
The fixed odds betting terminals that host roulette are simply called roulette machines. With respect to hardware, these machines certainly vary in design. Some look like they can be surreptitiously sneaked into a video game arcade without causing a public uproar. Others meanwhile, comprise of interactive screens where the players can input their bets surrounding a single roulette wheel. Still some are designed such that they’d look pretty much like the typical roulette table found in the casinos.
Regarding its gameplay, playing in a roulette FOBT is just the same as playing in online or live casinos, the only difference being the game’s odds. You place your bets, have the wheel spun, and then hope for the best. However, it is said that roulette machines are pre-programmed such that you are given a fixed probability of winning and is not totally random. For example, when you make three bets in a row, the machine can only let you randomly win one spin and lose in the remaining two. This is the reason why many are advised to simply stay away from roulette FOBTs and bet on actual tables instead. However, statistics depicting the number of roulette FOBT players indicate that these friendly warnings simply don’t work at all.
In summary, roulette played on fixed odds betting terminals is just the same as online and live casino roulette, but with altered odds. Don’t trust that this game is random however. If you want to play a purely chance-based roulette game, it’s best that you do it in land-based or online casinos.
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(ii) Suppose a company advertised that they did add a random bump to the wheel then it's an interesting argument whether the game is still defined as Roulette. In the UK this might mean it becomes a fruit machine and different rules apply. I have seen a machine using a bingo cage with 37 balls, and am guessing that still counts as Roulette (but I haven't ever checked it out). Obviously if they only did something when it felt threatened then my feeling is the machine has introduced intelligence, so it isn't truly random and arguably might no longer be Roulette.
(iii) In the UK most casino fruit machines are random, but ones found in pubs can be compensated (i.e. will tend to pay less after a series of big wins) and licensed slightly differently. This introduces another factor: whether the game is random or compensated. I'm guessing 'table games' in a casino have to be random and any other game (e.g. fruit machine) that can pay big wins has to remain random. Any game that isn't random might be considered a compensated game, has to advertise the fact and have a lower payout limit.
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Trying to think how the wheel would steer the ball im guessing either altering the wheel speed or air pressure inside the glass dome
Either way the computer would need to know the speed of the ball in order to steer it away from the late bettors numbers
I.e. the wheel has its own form of wheel clocking
If so then it may not be a stretch to assume it always wheel clocks to determine if an actual bettor is even near the expected outcome
And if this is the case then yout methodology would be faltered. You stated that as neither u nor mr c were wheel clockers you simply bet quintets centered on the number 2 spins previously an outcome. The software may have been determining that your wheel clocking was in error (as inevitably it would since your actual wagers were not based on actual wheel clocking and in those instances no counter measures would have been appropriate
However it seems you may have discounted this possibility as you attempted to trigger the allegged countermeasures simply by late betting in centered quintuplets
Can u clarify if this is a possibility
1. It would call attention to the issue. The media attention to the lawsuit would cause damage to the industry in general and to Interblock specifically.
2. The Wizard has absolutely done nothing to object to. He made no AP play, lost money and wrote some internet posts analyzing his losses and concluding that there was no conclusive evidence of 'countermeasure devices' on the Interblock roulette wheel. He was careful with his words.
3. Lawsuits are expensive. In fact they are worse than that -they are an un-bounded expense for an open-ended period of time. No business wants that - businesses are all about avoiding lawsuits, not entering into them. The only people who win in lawsuits are the lawyers.
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4. Any Interblock lawsuit on what Michael Shackleford has done would most likely be in jeopardy of penalties associated with frivolous lawsuits.
5. The Wizard's posts have already been copied by WOV forumites and would be propagated on the internet by multiple individuals if the Wizard was forced to remove them. They already are immortal - they will live forever.
Surely no one on this forum would support the use of any gambling devices that are rigged to depart from randomness without any notice to the gamblers. No forum member should object to such an investigation when conducted with such integrity and high standards and reported on in such an exemplary fashion.
Reasonable people can disagree on the significance of what the Wizard has posted and on how to interpret the data and his words. But I am dismayed that several forum members have made posts that are hostile to the fact that he has said anything at all about this subject. This thread has had the effect of identifying to me some of the devils in this forum.
Praise to Michael Shackleford and the Wizard of Vegas forum.
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Trying to think how the wheel would steer the ball im guessing either altering the wheel speed or air pressure inside the glass dome
Either way the computer would need to know the speed of the ball in order to steer it away from the late bettors numbers
If so then it may not be a stretch to assume it always wheel clocks to determine if an actual bettor is even near the expected outcome
And if this is the case then yout methodology would be faltered. You stated that as neither u nor mr c were wheel clockers you simply bet quintets centered on the number 2 spins previously an outcome. The software may have been determining that your wheel clocking was in error (as inevitably it would since your actual wagers were not based on actual wheel clocking and in those instances no counter measures would have been appropriate
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Like I said, the alleged red flags were late bets, big bets, and section bets. I never said it tested for player accuracy as well. The allegation was that the game would countermeasures if these red flags were raised even if the arc chosen was random. It is a fair question to ask that if the game could steer the ball accurately from sections bet, why didn't it test for accuracy? I don't have an answer. I was just confirming or denying an accusation presented to me.
However it seems you may have discounted this possibility as you attempted to trigger the allegged countermeasures simply by late betting in centered quintuplets
Can u clarify if this is a possibility
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Yes, it is possible that while red flags were set off, the game may have judged that the sections bet were overall random, looking at the history bet and so it let the ball land randomly. Much like a casino floorman may let a perceived bad card counter, which many are, play blackjack.
Any possibilty interblock has been approached and already moved to correct this
In general, roulette players are some of the weirdest people you will meet. I once met one that would cover his electronic game screen with cardboard because he thought surveillance was watching to see what he'd bet so that they could steer the ball away from his numbers! They tend to be very conspiracy minded from the get go. (And NO I'm not talking about Mr. S or whatever his name is here.) I'm referring to the real roulette junkies. Many roulette players won't play the electronic versions of it because they don't allow bets after the ball is spun *even when they're betting on the outside/red/black/etc..* It's because they simply don't trust the game. They think it will 'shoot against them.' Again, if a machine calls off bets before a ball is spun, roulette players will see the game as being RIGGED against them. So reprogramming a machine to call 'no more bets' before the ball is spun, or a ball that bounces to much just spooks the junkies away from the game. It takes away their sense of control over their gambling adventure.
Changing wheels speeds after no more bets also scares the regulars off and drives them back to the live games. I've talked with the avid players and I know how they feel. Roulette players/keno players/lotto players...they see conspiracies all the time. In some ways they are like birds. They startle easily.
Interblok appears to have done a fine job of giving players a since of control of some of their games. Much much better than Shuffle Master has. For example, the big six wheel where the player gets to pull the handle. That ridiculous handle (of course random as heck), makes players believe that they have a fair shot at winning money. The roulette games are really no different. As long as the players can't really see the wheel changing speeds after no more bets, they don't see the ball bouncing too much, and they can place their bets after the ball is spinning... will feel as though they're getting a fair shake. Take away any of it, and they'll wig out! I believe this is why IB has dominated their competition at the same games. I'm sure the games are sufficiently random as they are.
Now here's what most people don't know. All of these new LIVE roulette wheels that you see around town, at the Bellagio, Ven, MGM, etc ( the Cammegh wheels) they have an RRS (Random rotor servo) system in them that purposefully changes the wheel speed after no more bets has been placed... to thwart advantage players. In other words, like the machines the rotors change speeds during the spin. It's just that the roulette junkies don't perceive the speed changes like they do on some of the machines. Also the live games still allow bets after the ball is spun, which is why the regulars still prefer them. I suppose if you want to argue you could argue that the live wheels are attempting to beat the players as well.
I prefer a live game or good game of craps. I feel that I have more control over the game than I would if I was playing a machine. And yes, I know the dice are supposedly rigged too!
-Keyser
interesting to me that this game is being promoted. i understand eliminating the croupier already improves the profitability of the game, but i think when there's machine interaction in anyway, people are more skeptical. if it were me running the show, i'd probably employ video screens to make bets (even offering options to buy 7 local bets in a row to speed up betting) and do payouts and have a live person pitch the ball. every roulette table i've ever seen spends 40% of it's time making payouts and another 10-15% of its time handling buy ins and cash outs. having the machine do the payouts would accelerate the game by at least double, and a live person with a normal wheel would eliminate the skepticism of any players. now that dealer might be bored out of their mind, but hey, that's why its a job.
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Changing the amount of time after the ball is released to still make bets is irrelevant. If you were clocking this thing you could make your bets with 30 seconds remaining because you would know when and where the ball would be released and could time it accordingly. But the wheel speed absolutely changed randomly and to different speeds. I don't know, this is just my observation. I could be missing something. I certainly wouldn't be talking here if I knew how to beat it.